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WoW Forever Rogue Talent Calculator & Build Planner

Choose poison damage, weapon pressure or stealth control with Assassination, Combat or Subtlety. Plan 51 points and share your Rogue build.

Roles: Melee DPS · Stealth utility · See if this class fits you

Rogue
Rogue Talent Trees
51POINTS LEFT
Spent 0 of 51Requires level 10Beta 17 Sept

Every choice shapes your build.

Hover or tap a talent to see ranks and requirements. Click to learn, right-click to refund, Shift+click to fill to max. On touch: tap to inspect, tap again to learn — or touch and hold a talent to add points fast, and use the + / − bar below to learn and unlearn.

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How to use this Rogue talent calculator

Use the planner to test a build before you spend gold or commit to a leveling, dungeon, raid or PvP role. You can explore every tree without creating an account.

1 · CHOOSE A GOAL

Decide whether you are planning for leveling, group content, PvP or a flexible build. Your goal matters more than copying a popular tree.

2 · SET YOUR LEVEL

Move the level control to match your character. The point budget starts at level 10 and reaches 51 points at level 60.

3 · CHECK AND SHARE

Compare the tree with Classic, inspect prerequisites, save it on this device, then copy the build link for your guild or group.

Is Rogue a good fit for you?

Players who enjoy openers, crowd control, stealth routes and choosing when a fight begins. Positioning, energy and defensive cooldowns matter more than simply standing still and trading hits.

WHAT YOU CAN DO

Melee DPS · Stealth utility
The three trees let you shape the class around the job you want to do, not just the class name on your character sheet.

A GOOD START

Choose Assassination for poison pressure, Combat for direct weapon damage, or Subtlety for control and PvP tools.

PLAN AROUND YOUR CONTENT

For leveling routes, see questing tips. For group play, compare the dungeon guide, PvP guide and available starter builds.

Popular Rogue builds

New to Rogue? Open a starter build below, then move points around until it plays the way you want.

PvP · Assassination · LVL 60

Mutilate PvP

41 / 0 / 10
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DPS · Raids · LVL 60

Combat Swords

15 / 36 / 0
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PvP · Subtlety · LVL 60

Subtlety PvP

11 / 0 / 40
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Browse all 27 WoW Forever starter builds

What changed from Classic for Rogue?

This calculator uses the current Forever beta snapshot rather than assuming the Classic tree is unchanged. For Rogue, the current data contains 9 new talents, 30 changed talents and 1 moved talents.

  • NEW means the talent was not present in the Classic comparison tree.
  • CHANGED means the name or position may look familiar, but its effect or rank wording differs.
  • MOVED means the talent is in a different row or location, which can change how quickly you reach it.

Turn on Compare to Classic in the calculator for a quick check, then open the Rogue class changes page for the broader explanation.

Inside the Rogue trees

Every Rogue talent, in tree order. A rank is one level of a talent, and each rank makes the effect stronger. Click any talent for the full rank-by-rank wording, straight from the beta client.

Assassination Assassination (17 talents)

Poisons and fast combo-point damage out of stealth. Things die before the stun wears off. Key picks: Relentless Strikes, Cold Blood, Mutilate, Venom. New in Forever: Mutilate, Venom.

TalentRanksRowEffect
Improved Gouge Improved Gouge CHANGED 31Increases the duration of your Gouge ability by 1.5 sec.
Remorseless Attacks Remorseless Attacks CHANGED 21After killing a non-trivial enemy, gives you a 40% increased critical strike chance on your next Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, Mutilate, or Ghostly Strike. Lasts 20 sec.
Malice Malice CHANGED 51Increases your critical strike chance with all attacks and Poisons by 5%.
Ruthlessness Ruthlessness 32Gives your finishing moves a 60% chance to add a Combo Point to your target.
Murder Murder CHANGED 22Increases all damage dealt by 4% against Humanoid and Giant targets.
Improved Slice and Dice Improved Slice and Dice 32Increases the duration of your Slice and Dice ability by 45%.
Relentless Strikes Relentless Strikes 13Your finishing moves have a 20% chance per Combo Point to restore 25 Energy.
Improved Expose Armor Improved Expose Armor CHANGED 23Reduces the Energy cost of your Expose Armor ability by 10, and refunds 2 Combo Points when cast with 5 Combo Points.
Lethality Lethality CHANGED 53Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your Sinister Strike, Gouge, Backstab, Mutilate, Ghostly Strike, and Hemorrhage abilities by 20%.
Vile Poisons Vile Poisons 54Increases the damage dealt by your poisons by 20% and gives your poisons an additional 40% chance to resist dispel effects.
Cold Blood Cold Blood CHANGED 14When activated, increases the critical strike chance of your next Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, Eviscerate, or Mutilate by 100%.
Improved Poisons Improved Poisons CHANGED 54Increases the chance to apply Poisons to your target by 10%, and gives Poison applications a 50% chance to not consume a charge.
Vigor Vigor CHANGED 25Increases your maximum Energy by 10.
Mutilate Mutilate NEW 15Instantly attacks with both weapons for 75% weapon damage plus an additional 13 with each weapon. Damage increased by 20% against Poisoned targets. Awards 2 Combo Points.
Improved Kidney Shot Improved Kidney Shot CHANGED 25Enemies Stunned by your Kidney Shot ability take 10% increased damage from your poisons and attacks.
Seal Fate Seal Fate 56Your critical strikes from abilities that add Combo Points have a 100% chance to add an additional Combo Point.
Venom Venom NEW 17Finishing move that increases the damage of your Poisons by 30% and your chance to apply Poisons by 10%. Lasts longer per combo point: 1 point : 9 seconds 2 points: 12 seconds 3 points: 15 seconds 4 points: 18 seconds 5 points: 21 seconds

Combat Combat (17 talents)

Steady weapon damage, including hits that strike two targets. No tricks. Just swords. Key picks: Riposte, Flawless Execution, Blade Flurry, Adrenaline Rush. New in Forever: Flawless Execution, Hack and Slash.

TalentRanksRowEffect
Improved Eviscerate Improved Eviscerate CHANGED 31Increases the damage done by your Eviscerate ability by 20%.
Improved Sinister Strike Improved Sinister Strike 21Reduces the Energy cost of your Sinister Strike ability by 5.
Lightning Reflexes Lightning Reflexes 51Increases your Dodge chance by 5%.
Puncturing Wounds Puncturing Wounds CHANGED 32Increases the critical strike chance of your Backstab by 30% and your Mutilate by 15%, and gives Backstab a 45% chance to add an additional Combo Point.
Deflection Deflection CHANGED 32Increases your Parry chance by 6%.
Precision Precision CHANGED 32Improves your chance to hit by 3%.
Endurance Endurance CHANGED 23Reduces the cooldown of your Sprint and Evasion abilities by 60%.
Riposte Riposte 13A strike that becomes active after parrying an opponent's attack. This attack deals 150% weapon damage and disarms the target for 6 sec.
Improved Sprint Improved Sprint 23Gives a 100% chance to remove all movement impairing effects when you activate your Sprint ability.
Improved Kick Improved Kick 24Gives your Kick ability a 100% chance to Silence the target for 2 sec.
Flawless Execution Flawless Execution NEW 14Reduces the Energy cost of your Eviscerate ability by 10.
Dual Wield Specialization Dual Wield Specialization CHANGED 54Increases the damage done by your off-hand weapon by 25%.
Blade Flurry Blade Flurry CHANGED 15Increases your melee attack speed by 20% and your melee attacks strike an additional nearby opponent. Lasts 15 sec.
Hack and Slash Hack and Slash NEW 55Gives your melee weapon attacks a benefit depending on the weapon. Axe/Sword: Your successful melee attacks have a 5% chance to trigger an extra attack on the target. Dagger/Fist: Increases your critical strike chance by 5%. Mace: Your attacks ignore 15% of your target's armor.
Weapon Expertise Weapon Expertise CHANGED 26Reduces the chance for your attacks to be Dodged or Parried by 2%.
Aggression Aggression CHANGED 36Increases the damage of your Sinister Strike, Backstab, and Eviscerate abilities by 6%.
Adrenaline Rush Adrenaline Rush 17Increases your Energy regeneration rate by 100% for 15 sec.

Subtlety Subtlety (19 talents)

Stuns, escapes, and opener tricks. The control tree for people who like fights on their own terms. Key picks: Ghostly Strike, Premeditation, Preparation, Hemorrhage, Thousand Cuts. New in Forever: Dirty Tricks, Improved Distract, Quietus, Cutthroat, Thousand Cuts.

TalentRanksRowEffect
Camouflage Camouflage CHANGED 51Reduces your speed penalty from your Stealth ability by 15% and reduces its cooldown by 6 sec.
Master of Deception Master of Deception CHANGED 31Reduces the chance enemies have to detect you while in Stealth mode as if you were 3 levels higher.
Opportunity Opportunity CHANGED 21Increases the damage dealt by your Backstab, Garrote, Ambush, and Mutilate abilities by 10%.
Setup Setup CHANGED 32Gives you a 100% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging an attack or fully resisting a spell.
Elusiveness Elusiveness 22Reduces the cooldown of your Vanish and Blind abilities by 90 sec.
Dirty Tricks Dirty Tricks NEW 22Reduces the Energy cost of your Sap and Blind abilities by 50%.
Improved Ambush Improved Ambush MOVED32Increases the critical strike chance of your Ambush ability by 45%.
Initiative Initiative CHANGED 33Gives you a 100% chance to add an additional combo point to your target when using your Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot ability.
Ghostly Strike Ghostly Strike CHANGED 13A strike that deals 125% (180% if a Dagger is equipped in your Main Hand) weapon damage and increases your chance to dodge by 15% for 7 sec. Awards 1 combo point.
Improved Distract Improved Distract NEW 23Increases the radius of your Distract ability by 5 yds, and further reduces the Stealth detection of distracted enemies as though they were an additional 2 levels lower.
Heightened Senses Heightened Senses CHANGED 24Increases your Stealth detection as if you were 3 levels higher and reduces your chance to be hit by spells and ranged attacks by 4%.
Premeditation Premeditation CHANGED 14Adds 2 Combo Points to your target. You must add to or use those combo points within 20 sec or the combo points are lost.
Serrated Blades Serrated Blades CHANGED 34Causes your attacks to ignore 9% of your target's Armor and increases the damage dealt by your Rupture ability by 30%.
Dirty Deeds Dirty Deeds CHANGED 25Reduces the Energy cost of your Cheap Shot and Garrote abilities by 20, and your Garrote ability no longer requires you to be behind your target.
Preparation Preparation 15When activated, this ability immediately finishes the cooldown on your other Rogue abilities.
Hemorrhage Hemorrhage CHANGED 15An instant strike that deals 100% weapon damage (145% if a Dagger is equipped) and causes the target to take 15% increased Rupture damage from the Rogue. Lasts 15 sec. Awards 1 Combo Point.
Quietus Quietus NEW 56Your Sinister Strike, Ghostly Strike, and Hemorrhage abilities cause 10% more damage against targets below 35% health.
Cutthroat Cutthroat NEW 56Your Backstab has a 15% chance to cause your next Ambush within 10 sec to not require Stealth.
Thousand Cuts Thousand Cuts NEW 17When your Rupture ability deals periodic damage, the Energy cost of your next Hemorrhage or Backstab ability within 10 sec is reduced by 3, stacking up to 5 times.

Want the exact numbers? The full Rogue talent reference lists every rank word-for-word from the beta client. And if you're wondering what Blizzard shuffled, every Rogue change vs Classic sits on one page.

Quick checklist before you lock in points

  • Check the level slider before judging a build. A deep talent may be a level-60 plan, not a level-20 plan.
  • Read the prerequisite path, not just the final talent. Five points in a tree unlock the next row.
  • Use the class guide to compare roles, then use build comparison when two versions look similar.
  • Save or copy the link after testing. The current snapshot page explains how shared links behave when beta data changes.

Best races for Rogue

Human · Dwarf · Night Elf · Gnome · Orc · Undead · Troll · Skyborne

Undead can break out of fear effects. Humans spot hidden enemies better — handy against other rogues. Compare every racial passive side by side on the races page.

Common questions

New to the lingo? A spec is the tree you spend most of your points in. A rank is one level of a talent. DPS means damage-dealing. Basically, your job is hitting things hard.

How many talent points does a Rogue get?

51 at level 60. You get your first point at level 10, then one more every level after that.

How do I read this talent tree?

Start at the top of Assassination, Combat, Subtlety. Row 1 talents are always open. Every 5 points you spend in one tree opens the next row down — so a row 4 talent needs 15 points in the rows above it, in the same tree. The tags tell you what changed: NEW never existed in Classic, Changed works differently now.

What is new for Rogue in WoW Forever?

9 brand-new talents. Flip on Compare to Classic above and they light up purple.

How do I share my Rogue build?

Hit Copy build and you'll get a short link. Paste it in Discord.

Where do I spend my first 5 Rogue points?

Row one is always open, so most players fill Assassination (Improved Gouge, Remorseless Attacks); Combat (Improved Eviscerate, Improved Sinister Strike); Subtlety (Camouflage, Master of Deception) first.

How do I reset my Rogue talents?

Each tree (Assassination, Combat, Subtlety) has its own Reset button, and the header Reset clears the whole class. In game, your class trainer respecs you for gold, and the price goes up each time.

Which Rogue tree should I start with?

Choose Assassination for poison pressure, Combat for direct weapon damage, or Subtlety for control and PvP tools.

Mutilate or Backstab?

Mutilate builds combo points faster up front. Backstab still hits harder per energy, if you can stay behind the target. The right pick depends on the fight.

Which Rogue spec for PvP?

Subtlety controls fights; Assassination ends them fast. Both are alive in the Forever meta, so test both in beta and pick the one that clicks.