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PvP · Subtlety Level 60 · 11 / 0 / 40 · Assassination 11 · Combat 0 · Subtlety 40
Shadowstep-era control Rogue: Preparation resets, Quietus finishers and Thousand Cuts burst with an Assassination shell. This level-60 plan is a starting point: load it in the calculator and adjust the points for your gear, group and current beta data.
Build at a glance
PvP · Subtlety
Use this plan when your priority matches the role label above. It is not intended to be a universal build for every activity.
- Thousand Cuts (needs Preparation)
- Quietus (needs Dirty Deeds)
- Hemorrhage (needs Serrated Blades)
Load the build, test it at level 60, then compare your version with the build comparison tool.
How to use this Subtlety PvP build
- Press Open in Rogue calculator above.
- Keep the core path, then shift points into the talents that matter for your gear, group or preferred activity.
- Use the calculator's Copy build button to share your edited version with your guild or group.
How to play Subtlety PvP
Pick one target and control them completely. Open from stealth, chain stuns, and use Preparation to reset when the fight turns.
Related planning: Read the PvP guide, open the Rogue talent calculator, or review the class changes before you finalize the build.
Every point in Subtlety PvP, explained
The table below lists every point of this level 60 build: the exact rank taken and what that rank does. So you can see where the points went, and why each pick earned its spot.
Assassination (11 points)
| Talent | Rank | Effect |
|---|---|---|
 Improved Gouge | 3/3 | Increases the duration of your Gouge ability by 1.5 sec. |
 Malice | 5/5 | Increases your critical strike chance with all attacks and Poisons by 5%. |
 Ruthlessness | 3/3 | Gives your finishing moves a 60% chance to add a Combo Point to your target. |
Subtlety (40 points)
| Talent | Rank | Effect |
|---|---|---|
 Camouflage | 5/5 | Reduces your speed penalty from your Stealth ability by 15% and reduces its cooldown by 6 sec. |
 Master of Deception | 3/3 | Reduces the chance enemies have to detect you while in Stealth mode as if you were 3 levels higher. |
 Opportunity | 2/2 | Increases the damage dealt by your Backstab, Garrote, Ambush, and Mutilate abilities by 10%. |
 Setup | 3/3 | Gives you a 100% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging an attack or fully resisting a spell. |
 Elusiveness | 2/2 | Reduces the cooldown of your Vanish and Blind abilities by 90 sec. |
 Dirty Tricks | 2/2 | Reduces the Energy cost of your Sap and Blind abilities by 50%. |
 Improved Ambush | 3/3 | Increases the critical strike chance of your Ambush ability by 45%. |
 Initiative | 3/3 | Gives you a 100% chance to add an additional combo point to your target when using your Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot ability. |
 Ghostly Strike | 1/1 | A strike that deals 125% (180% if a Dagger is equipped in your Main Hand) weapon damage and increases your chance to dodge by 15% for 7 sec. Awards 1 combo point. |
 Improved Distract | 2/2 | Increases the radius of your Distract ability by 5 yds, and further reduces the Stealth detection of distracted enemies as though they were an additional 2 levels lower. |
 Heightened Senses | 2/2 | Increases your Stealth detection as if you were 3 levels higher and reduces your chance to be hit by spells and ranged attacks by 4%. |
 Premeditation | 1/1 | Adds 2 Combo Points to your target. You must add to or use those combo points within 20 sec or the combo points are lost. |
 Serrated Blades | 3/3 | Causes your attacks to ignore 9% of your target's Armor and increases the damage dealt by your Rupture ability by 30%. |
 Dirty Deeds | 2/2 | Reduces the Energy cost of your Cheap Shot and Garrote abilities by 20, and your Garrote ability no longer requires you to be behind your target. |
 Preparation | 1/1 | When activated, this ability immediately finishes the cooldown on your other Rogue abilities. |
 Hemorrhage | 1/1 | An instant strike that deals 100% weapon damage (145% if a Dagger is equipped) and causes the target to take 15% increased Rupture damage from the Rogue. Lasts 15 sec. Awards 1 Combo Point. |
 Quietus | 2/5 | Your Sinister Strike, Ghostly Strike, and Hemorrhage abilities cause 4% more damage against targets below 35% health. |
 Cutthroat | 1/5 | Your Backstab has a 3% chance to cause your next Ambush within 10 sec to not require Stealth. |
 Thousand Cuts | 1/1 | When your Rupture ability deals periodic damage, the Energy cost of your next Hemorrhage or Backstab ability within 10 sec is reduced by 3, stacking up to 5 times. |
Why Subtlety PvP takes these talents
Thousand Cuts finishes fights but needs Preparation first. Quietus hits harder after Dirty Deeds. Hemorrhage bleeds through armor once Serrated Blades is done.
Common questions
How do I change this build?
Press Open in Rogue calculator, move any points, and share the new link. Your edits are included in the link automatically.
How do I share this build?
Open the build in the calculator and use the Copy build button. Whoever opens the link sees the same point allocation and can continue editing it.
Can I reset the points?
Yes. Use Reset in the calculator, or reload this starter build to return to the original allocation.
Does this build work for PvE and PvP?
Check the role tag at the top of the page. The point split favors that activity, although some talents may still be useful in other content.
Not quite your style?
If Subtlety PvP doesn't click, try Mutilate PvP (pvp) or Combat Swords (dps) instead. Every build on this site loads straight into the calculator — testing a different spec takes seconds, not an evening of re-planning.
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Beta note: this is an independent starting plan based on the current talent snapshot. Talent effects and balance may change; review the updates and sources before treating it as final.